<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: A bit more BlogHer</title>
	<atom:link href="http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/</link>
	<description>&#34;If you don&#039;t know where you are going, any road will take you there.&#34; - Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:32:58 -0400</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: In Women We Trust</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>In Women We Trust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-439</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BlogHer or Blogger? Who cares, just learn the tool.&lt;/strong&gt;

Susan Getgood&#039;s posting on BlogHer set off discussions in many directions. I&#039;m going to focus on one -- when does a women-only thing go from being an event identifier to a name-calling insult for an attendee? As I was reading
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BlogHer or Blogger? Who cares, just learn the tool.</strong></p>
<p>Susan Getgood&#8217;s posting on BlogHer set off discussions in many directions. I&#8217;m going to focus on one &#8212; when does a women-only thing go from being an event identifier to a name-calling insult for an attendee? As I was reading</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tara 'Miss Rogue' Hunt</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara 'Miss Rogue' Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-437</guid>
		<description>I totally agree with your post. 100%

My issue wasn&#039;t with the conference at all (I wasn&#039;t there, so who am I to comment), mine was with the reporting by some of the male observers on the &#039;pretty, hugging, kissing, giggling, sexy women who didn&#039;t have to be explained blogging.&#039;

And I do something about that every day. Trying to break stereotypes with every keystroke and every ounce of my being. ;) And so are you!
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with your post. 100%</p>
<p>My issue wasn&#8217;t with the conference at all (I wasn&#8217;t there, so who am I to comment), mine was with the reporting by some of the male observers on the &#8216;pretty, hugging, kissing, giggling, sexy women who didn&#8217;t have to be explained blogging.&#8217;</p>
<p>And I do something about that every day. Trying to break stereotypes with every keystroke and every ounce of my being. <img src='http://getgood.com/roadmaps/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  And so are you!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yvonne DiVita</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne DiVita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-436</guid>
		<description>Kathy, I LOVE titles that begin with &#039;woman.&#039; I lived through that whole feminist era where we asserted ourselves and demanded equality - and never really got it. Still don&#039;t have it. Hence, I think we need to celebrate our differences - from men. While recognizing our similarities, as human beings.

I am beginning to think equality in its purist sense is unattainable. We all have these preconceived notions of what that means - I respect your view that having the gender label applied to you and your work is somehow demeaning - but, to me, it&#039;s invigorating. I spent much too long as a woman in a &quot;man&#039;s world&quot; to let it go now.

Gender labels will persist no matter how hard we try to rip them off. I delve into that a little in my book, Dickless Marketing, remembering how hard we baby boomer Moms tried to bring our kids up to be androgynous. It didn&#039;t work because woman and men are hard-wired differently - which doesn&#039;t mean one sex is better than another. It does mean that women have their advantages, and men have theirs. And, there are men who are better at woman-related stuff than some women, and women who are better at men-related stuff than some men.

I will continue to celebrate my woman-ness. I am woman - hear me roar - indeed. As for the tagline: Where the Women Are - it&#039;s a mindset for Blogher. Nothing more. Marketing that works.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, I LOVE titles that begin with &#8216;woman.&#8217; I lived through that whole feminist era where we asserted ourselves and demanded equality &#8211; and never really got it. Still don&#8217;t have it. Hence, I think we need to celebrate our differences &#8211; from men. While recognizing our similarities, as human beings.</p>
<p>I am beginning to think equality in its purist sense is unattainable. We all have these preconceived notions of what that means &#8211; I respect your view that having the gender label applied to you and your work is somehow demeaning &#8211; but, to me, it&#8217;s invigorating. I spent much too long as a woman in a &#8220;man&#8217;s world&#8221; to let it go now.</p>
<p>Gender labels will persist no matter how hard we try to rip them off. I delve into that a little in my book, Dickless Marketing, remembering how hard we baby boomer Moms tried to bring our kids up to be androgynous. It didn&#8217;t work because woman and men are hard-wired differently &#8211; which doesn&#8217;t mean one sex is better than another. It does mean that women have their advantages, and men have theirs. And, there are men who are better at woman-related stuff than some women, and women who are better at men-related stuff than some men.</p>
<p>I will continue to celebrate my woman-ness. I am woman &#8211; hear me roar &#8211; indeed. As for the tagline: Where the Women Are &#8211; it&#8217;s a mindset for Blogher. Nothing more. Marketing that works.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: sanders5</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>sanders5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-435</guid>
		<description>I went to Blogher FOR my business blog.  I also have a personal blog, but when there were business sessions to attend, that is where I went.

I am looking forward to NY - and also have it on my calendar, b/c I want more focused business sessions (like the business blogging unpanel).

I was not disappointed in BlogHer overall, but one disappointment was that it seemed to primarily focus on the basics - as if we all still needed to know about flickr, choices in free blogging platforms, etc...

I understand the necessity of those sessions, but I certainly would like to recommend having sessions focusing on different technical levels - not ones where the speaker has to stop and define RSS or technorati.

I felt Blogher, for the most part, was a social gathering with a few serious things tossed in.  For its second year out of the gate, I think the founders have done excellent and I do plan on continuing in attendance.

I identify with BlogHER and like it.  I am a woman blogger.  I am a woman in business.  I don&#039;t fall into the argument that I need to merge into the man&#039;s world and just be a &#039;blogger&#039; - I like being a &#039;woman blogger.&#039;  Maybe I&#039;ve not stepped far enough into the feminism movement, who knows.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to Blogher FOR my business blog.  I also have a personal blog, but when there were business sessions to attend, that is where I went.</p>
<p>I am looking forward to NY &#8211; and also have it on my calendar, b/c I want more focused business sessions (like the business blogging unpanel).</p>
<p>I was not disappointed in BlogHer overall, but one disappointment was that it seemed to primarily focus on the basics &#8211; as if we all still needed to know about flickr, choices in free blogging platforms, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I understand the necessity of those sessions, but I certainly would like to recommend having sessions focusing on different technical levels &#8211; not ones where the speaker has to stop and define RSS or technorati.</p>
<p>I felt Blogher, for the most part, was a social gathering with a few serious things tossed in.  For its second year out of the gate, I think the founders have done excellent and I do plan on continuing in attendance.</p>
<p>I identify with BlogHER and like it.  I am a woman blogger.  I am a woman in business.  I don&#8217;t fall into the argument that I need to merge into the man&#8217;s world and just be a &#8216;blogger&#8217; &#8211; I like being a &#8216;woman blogger.&#8217;  Maybe I&#8217;ve not stepped far enough into the feminism movement, who knows.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Susan Getgood</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Getgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-434</guid>
		<description>Kathy, thanks for coming by and sharing your thoughts here.

I&#039;m probably going to set off a huge blogstorm with this comment, but hey, in for a penny....

Is &quot;blogger&quot; a professional title? I&#039;m not sure it is. Or should be. I hear the screaming from all corners now.

Let me explain: we share our thoughts and expertise through blogs, but I would hazard a guess that very few people consider themselves professional bloggers. Even if they are paid to blog, I hope their self id is as &quot;writer&quot; or &quot;communicator,&quot; with their current assignment being blogs.

Now we couldn&#039;t make that a universal statement - I know there are folks who DO describe their professional id as &quot;blogger&quot; but I don&#039;t think that will stick, because it is too tied to a medium. Taking a long term view, much better to be a marketer or a writer so you can adapt to NEW mediums as they emerge.

So talking about women bloggers is a description -- women who blog. That&#039;s pretty much the commonality at BlogHer. As Evelyn comments above, otherwise, it is pretty diverse. Certainly more so than most of the other conferences I&#039;ve been to in the past few years.

&quot;Where the women are.&quot; Originally of course that was the answer to the question posed, Where are the women? I&#039;m sure you recall the blogstorms of early 05 when folks (among them Shelley Powers) did a bit of parseing of the A-list, and found that the A-list, predominantly male, mostly linked to each other. A closed circle with little diversity.

BlogHer was a response to that, an attempt to create a community of women perhaps strong enough to offset a male-centered blogosphere. Has it worked? I think yes, although perhaps not in all the ways everyone imagined 18 months ago. Does the A-list still hang together? Pretty much. Does it matter? Yeah, but not so much anymore. We&#039;ve created other communities (down here in the long tail) that are equally satisfying. In fact that&#039;s something I&#039;ll be writing about this weekend -- community that is.

Finally, I don&#039;t think anyone could make the mistake that ALL the women are at BlogHer, given the blog activity of this week. Regardless of the tagline.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, thanks for coming by and sharing your thoughts here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably going to set off a huge blogstorm with this comment, but hey, in for a penny&#8230;.</p>
<p>Is &#8220;blogger&#8221; a professional title? I&#8217;m not sure it is. Or should be. I hear the screaming from all corners now.</p>
<p>Let me explain: we share our thoughts and expertise through blogs, but I would hazard a guess that very few people consider themselves professional bloggers. Even if they are paid to blog, I hope their self id is as &#8220;writer&#8221; or &#8220;communicator,&#8221; with their current assignment being blogs.</p>
<p>Now we couldn&#8217;t make that a universal statement &#8211; I know there are folks who DO describe their professional id as &#8220;blogger&#8221; but I don&#8217;t think that will stick, because it is too tied to a medium. Taking a long term view, much better to be a marketer or a writer so you can adapt to NEW mediums as they emerge.</p>
<p>So talking about women bloggers is a description &#8212; women who blog. That&#8217;s pretty much the commonality at BlogHer. As Evelyn comments above, otherwise, it is pretty diverse. Certainly more so than most of the other conferences I&#8217;ve been to in the past few years.</p>
<p>&#8220;Where the women are.&#8221; Originally of course that was the answer to the question posed, Where are the women? I&#8217;m sure you recall the blogstorms of early 05 when folks (among them Shelley Powers) did a bit of parseing of the A-list, and found that the A-list, predominantly male, mostly linked to each other. A closed circle with little diversity.</p>
<p>BlogHer was a response to that, an attempt to create a community of women perhaps strong enough to offset a male-centered blogosphere. Has it worked? I think yes, although perhaps not in all the ways everyone imagined 18 months ago. Does the A-list still hang together? Pretty much. Does it matter? Yeah, but not so much anymore. We&#8217;ve created other communities (down here in the long tail) that are equally satisfying. In fact that&#8217;s something I&#8217;ll be writing about this weekend &#8212; community that is.</p>
<p>Finally, I don&#8217;t think anyone could make the mistake that ALL the women are at BlogHer, given the blog activity of this week. Regardless of the tagline.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: hugh macleod</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>hugh macleod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-433</guid>
		<description>Point taken, Susan. Maybe if I had strong opinions about Blogher one way or the other, I&#039;d have been more vigilant. But hey, if women want to get together and talk about blogs, well, I can think of worse ways to spend a weekend. But that&#039;s about as strong as my opinion gets. Glad you all had a good time. But then again, why wouldn&#039;t you?
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point taken, Susan. Maybe if I had strong opinions about Blogher one way or the other, I&#8217;d have been more vigilant. But hey, if women want to get together and talk about blogs, well, I can think of worse ways to spend a weekend. But that&#8217;s about as strong as my opinion gets. Glad you all had a good time. But then again, why wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kathy Sierra</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-432</guid>
		<description>Yvonne : Do you really feel that it&#039;s not a problem to tack &quot;woman&quot; on to the front of our professional titles? Because I sure don&#039;t want people referring to me as a &quot;woman tech author&quot; or a &quot;woman programmer.&quot; I&#039;m quite fine with being acknowledged AS a woman, just not having my professional titles qualified... I believe there&#039;s a reason women have worked so hard to get rid of those gender-specific labels, and to add them back in here still makes me a little queasy.

I  agree that it doesn&#039;t make sense to change the tagline to &quot;where people are&quot;, because it IS about women, but what bothers me is I don&#039;t know how else to parse that line other than, &quot;Hey, THIS is where the women are. Right HERE.&quot; It is simply not true. It is where *some* of the women are, and I wish BlogHer would reflect that.

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yvonne : Do you really feel that it&#8217;s not a problem to tack &#8220;woman&#8221; on to the front of our professional titles? Because I sure don&#8217;t want people referring to me as a &#8220;woman tech author&#8221; or a &#8220;woman programmer.&#8221; I&#8217;m quite fine with being acknowledged AS a woman, just not having my professional titles qualified&#8230; I believe there&#8217;s a reason women have worked so hard to get rid of those gender-specific labels, and to add them back in here still makes me a little queasy.</p>
<p>I  agree that it doesn&#8217;t make sense to change the tagline to &#8220;where people are&#8221;, because it IS about women, but what bothers me is I don&#8217;t know how else to parse that line other than, &#8220;Hey, THIS is where the women are. Right HERE.&#8221; It is simply not true. It is where *some* of the women are, and I wish BlogHer would reflect that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Susan Getgood</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Getgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-431</guid>
		<description>You know, one of my personal flaws has been that I always take the bait. I know it and I still do it.

And today is no different. Hugh, I KNOW your post was not about BlogHer. Your post was about making fun of BlogHer. And the gender issues that created it in the first place.

That&#039;s what you do. You draw cartoons that make fun of stuff - sometimes even yourself, God bless you. You may not even have a strong personal opinion on BlogHer, I have no idea. But the links on your cartoon were &quot;fair and balanced&quot; like FOX News. Your readers, all however many thousand of them, now have an impression of BlogHer that is far from fair or balanced. And that&#039;s too bad. It&#039;s also your right -- your blog, your cartoons.

And my free speech to tell you that I think that was wrong. I do not need you to agree.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, one of my personal flaws has been that I always take the bait. I know it and I still do it.</p>
<p>And today is no different. Hugh, I KNOW your post was not about BlogHer. Your post was about making fun of BlogHer. And the gender issues that created it in the first place.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what you do. You draw cartoons that make fun of stuff &#8211; sometimes even yourself, God bless you. You may not even have a strong personal opinion on BlogHer, I have no idea. But the links on your cartoon were &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221; like FOX News. Your readers, all however many thousand of them, now have an impression of BlogHer that is far from fair or balanced. And that&#8217;s too bad. It&#8217;s also your right &#8212; your blog, your cartoons.</p>
<p>And my free speech to tell you that I think that was wrong. I do not need you to agree.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hugh MacLeod</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh MacLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-430</guid>
		<description>Susan, with all due respect, my post WAS NOT about BlogHer. Do the math....
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, with all due respect, my post WAS NOT about BlogHer. Do the math&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Evelyn Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2006/08/03/a-bit-more-blogher/comment-page-1/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Evelyn Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://getgood.com/roadmaps/?p=272#comment-429</guid>
		<description>Susan, Thanks so much for being a voice of reason. I temper my reading of blog posts that jump on the bandwagon about an event they&#039;ve never attended first-hand.

I find BlogHer to be refreshingly the most diverse blogging conference in terms of the breadth of topics of interest, class, ages, etc. represented. I think the media attention skewed it as if every other blogger there is a mommy blogger or diarist, yet when you talk one-on-one with random women you quickly find that&#039;s not the case at all. Everything under sun is covered with passion and zeal by amazing women.

One thing on &quot;the something soft and girly, and therefore less serious&quot; comment. I grew up as oldest in a family with three girls, and no brothers. I so wanted to be a boy for first 37 years of my life. Ah, the freedom and power of being male!, I thought. Yet, I&#039;ve reclaimed my femininity of late and integrated both masculine &amp; feminine sides. Femme *is* powerful. Soft is definitely not less serious at all, that&#039;s just what They tell us.

I really look forward to seeing you again in NYC, if not earlier.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, Thanks so much for being a voice of reason. I temper my reading of blog posts that jump on the bandwagon about an event they&#8217;ve never attended first-hand.</p>
<p>I find BlogHer to be refreshingly the most diverse blogging conference in terms of the breadth of topics of interest, class, ages, etc. represented. I think the media attention skewed it as if every other blogger there is a mommy blogger or diarist, yet when you talk one-on-one with random women you quickly find that&#8217;s not the case at all. Everything under sun is covered with passion and zeal by amazing women.</p>
<p>One thing on &#8220;the something soft and girly, and therefore less serious&#8221; comment. I grew up as oldest in a family with three girls, and no brothers. I so wanted to be a boy for first 37 years of my life. Ah, the freedom and power of being male!, I thought. Yet, I&#8217;ve reclaimed my femininity of late and integrated both masculine &#038; feminine sides. Femme *is* powerful. Soft is definitely not less serious at all, that&#8217;s just what They tell us.</p>
<p>I really look forward to seeing you again in NYC, if not earlier.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

