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	<title>Comments on: Dunbar&#8217;s, blogs, fans and community</title>
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		<title>By: Susan Getgood</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2008/09/20/dunbars-blogs-fans-and-community/comment-page-1/#comment-1324</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Getgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug and Kami -- I agree with you both. At one point I had threads related to the concepts in both your comments in this post, but the whole thing was getting too unwieldy so I scaled back to the main point around fans.

But your questions are indeed the key follow-on questions. What is the parallel for a company to the kinds of things artists do to engage their fans? How does it give back and participate in a community?

When you look at the community, as Doug notes, it isn&#039;t a homogeneous group with single set of shared interests. It&#039;s more like infinite overlapping circles. This is both the opportunity and the challenge for marketers. Opportunity in that they don&#039;t have to touch every member of a community. Challenge because they need to be certain they are touching the right ones. The fact that currently so many are not reaching out to the right ones is the source of most of my bad pitch content on Marketing Roadmaps.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug and Kami &#8212; I agree with you both. At one point I had threads related to the concepts in both your comments in this post, but the whole thing was getting too unwieldy so I scaled back to the main point around fans.</p>
<p>But your questions are indeed the key follow-on questions. What is the parallel for a company to the kinds of things artists do to engage their fans? How does it give back and participate in a community?</p>
<p>When you look at the community, as Doug notes, it isn&#8217;t a homogeneous group with single set of shared interests. It&#8217;s more like infinite overlapping circles. This is both the opportunity and the challenge for marketers. Opportunity in that they don&#8217;t have to touch every member of a community. Challenge because they need to be certain they are touching the right ones. The fact that currently so many are not reaching out to the right ones is the source of most of my bad pitch content on Marketing Roadmaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Haslam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Haslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel, with posts like this one, that the pendulum is swinging back from thoughts about &quot;you must be a &#039;friend&#039; to everyone online&quot; to thinking more sanely about how to relate to people on a large scale. This does not mean sitting back on blast advertising or marketing, but it does require perspective such as what you ans Kami post here.

n a personal level, I find that once you pass the Dunbar number on a single social network, the network doesn&#039;t break down-- it breaks up- into a bunch of &quot;Dunbars,&quot; adding up to something greater in the long run.

what do i mean? If you have more than 150 Twitter followers-- say, 1,000. You are never talking to 1,00 at once in any case-- you are talking to far fewer at a time.

Breaking it down into &quot;Dunbars&quot; units may be one way for companies to scale social networking but still engage. That&#039;s where time, people and money start to add up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel, with posts like this one, that the pendulum is swinging back from thoughts about &#8220;you must be a &#8216;friend&#8217; to everyone online&#8221; to thinking more sanely about how to relate to people on a large scale. This does not mean sitting back on blast advertising or marketing, but it does require perspective such as what you ans Kami post here.</p>
<p>n a personal level, I find that once you pass the Dunbar number on a single social network, the network doesn&#8217;t break down&#8211; it breaks up- into a bunch of &#8220;Dunbars,&#8221; adding up to something greater in the long run.</p>
<p>what do i mean? If you have more than 150 Twitter followers&#8211; say, 1,000. You are never talking to 1,00 at once in any case&#8211; you are talking to far fewer at a time.</p>
<p>Breaking it down into &#8220;Dunbars&#8221; units may be one way for companies to scale social networking but still engage. That&#8217;s where time, people and money start to add up.</p>
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		<title>By: Kami Huyse</title>
		<link>http://getgood.com/roadmaps/2008/09/20/dunbars-blogs-fans-and-community/comment-page-1/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Kami Huyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for extending this conversation. I think that the company also needs to be seen as a contributing member of the community.  As a member they will enjoy the benefits and responsibilities of the community. The benefit is the loyalty of the group, but it comes with the price that the company, and the people within it, must also be loyal to the community in return. The organization has to look at how it can contribute in a mutually beneficial way.  I was talking about this today at the Connect conference and I shared your post in my delicious &quot;handout.&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://del.icio.us/kamichat/connect08&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://del.icio.us/kamichat/connect08&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for extending this conversation. I think that the company also needs to be seen as a contributing member of the community.  As a member they will enjoy the benefits and responsibilities of the community. The benefit is the loyalty of the group, but it comes with the price that the company, and the people within it, must also be loyal to the community in return. The organization has to look at how it can contribute in a mutually beneficial way.  I was talking about this today at the Connect conference and I shared your post in my delicious &#8220;handout.&#8221; <a href="http://del.icio.us/kamichat/connect08" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/kamichat/connect08</a></p>
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