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More on the Writers Strike

November 15, 2007 by Susan Getgood

The writers are doing a great job communicating their story on the Internet. I wish them luck, and will be doing what I can as a fan to support them. If you want a good summary of the issues, watch these two videos.

 

And check out these sites:

  • Fans4writers
  • United Hollywood (sign the petition)
  • Writers Guild of America West
  • Writers Guild of America East
  • Pencils down means pencils down

The issue is resonating particularly loudly in the fandoms I follow, chiefly the Whedonverse and Battlestar Galactica. Joss Whedon has posted on Whedonesque multiple times and Ron Moore of BSG just started his own, personal blog (versus the scifi.com one he sporadically posted to last year.) And of course writers Jane Espenson and Mark Verheiden, whose blogs I read on a regular basis anyway, have been covering the strike in their usual articulate fashion.

Tags: WGA, writers strike, Whedonverse, Battlestar Galactica

Filed Under: Media, Politics/Policy, Science Fiction, Serenity / Firefly

Epilogue: Wal-Mart and Edelman

October 16, 2006 by Susan Getgood

Well, as many PR bloggers have already reported (best round-upto date is Constantin’s), Edelman has emerged from the cone of silence around the Wal-Mart fiasco. On Richard Edelman’s blog, an apology and acceptance of total responsibility. And on Steve Rubel’s, a short comment and link to Richard’s blog.

Quite frankly, I do not see how the agency could have done anything else. It could be Edelman’s fault. Might not be. Probably is. Doesn’t really matter. Whether it was their fault or not, the agency must fall on the sword for the client. Or lose the client.

I know a lot of folks would love to be privy to the post mortem on this disaster. To them, I say, how does it feel… to want. We know what we know and we ain’t likely to know much more. And I don’t really care. I’m more interested in:

  • what Edelman does in the future. Will they finally learn and get it right the next time? What Richard and Steve say is all good and well, but the proof is in what they DO;
  • the lessons we can all learn about honesty and grassroots marketing from this fiasco.

I’ve commented on a number of other blog posts about this mess, among them Kami Huyse and Peter Himler, that the real shame is that had they done this right, with honesty and clarity about the sponsorship, this RVing blog might just have worked. People with RVs do stay in Wal-Mart parking lots. That’s not an invention. They might have rallied around a blog that focused on them, their lives, their culture.  If it was well written, corporate sponsored or not, the public might have enjoyed it. Many do shop in Wal-Mart, image problems notwithstanding.

Bottom line, had there been truth, I would have given it a big, so what. A good idea is still a good idea even if the corporation has it. The error isn’t in sponsoring a blog to advance a corporate objective. The error is the lie. People can forgive many things. But generally and pretty universally, we hate being lied to.

I’m pretty sure the folks at Edelman and Wal-Mart get this now.

There is nothing wrong with trying to spark something in the "grassroots."  If you’ve understood the situation, and deliver a compelling message, it will take fire. That’s what viral means — the message is so compelling it propels itself through the social network. But we cannot create a grassroots effect   Artificial, the campaign has no life, no community and cannot spread without more artifice and manipulation.

You must tap into something in the community for grassroots efforts to bear any fruit. Two recent examples come to mind, and I’m sure it will surprise none of my readers that both come from science fiction television, Firefly and Farscape. Momentum came from the community and the producers were smart enough to engage with, to love their communities. They treated them with respect and love, and guess what? When the franchises needed support, the communities around them sprung to action.

In both cases, the TV shows were cancelled and fan support had a great deal to do with subsequent movies. In the case of Firefly fans, strong DVD sales provided further proof for the movie studio that the decision to greenlight a feature film (Serenity) was the right one. And when it came time to promote the film, no fan base was more loyal than the Firefly fans.

Except maybe the Farscape fans, who lobbied for a resolution to their much loved and highly acclaimed series, and finally got it in 2004 with the Peacekeeper Wars miniseries. I wasn’t a Farscape viewer when it was on TV but now, having seen all the episodes, I can say without hesitation that it is a damn shame the show was cancelled. Can we have some more, please?

In both cases, the grassroots communities were there, and the shows were able to tap into the love to make things happen. Fans didn’t mind when Joss Whedon asked them to do something for Serenity. They knew he’d pay them back in spades. In fact, both fan groups are still going pretty strong online and to date, there are no (public) plans for more of either on TV or the big screen. [Boo Hoo]

That’s how a company can tap into the grassroots. And I do not believe that it  is only possible for science fiction franchises.

However, it is only possible when we understand that a grassroots campaign only works when the initial impetus comes from the community, not the corporation that benefits.

It’s grassroots marketing when the roots really are in the grass. When they are not, it is probably astroturf.

Tags: Wal-Mart, Edelman, PR, public relations, fake blogs, grassroots marketing, Firefly, Farscape

Filed Under: Blogging, Business Management, Ethics, Fake/Fictional Blogs, Marketing, PR, Serenity / Firefly

The Sci-Fi Fan’s Curse

August 22, 2006 by Susan Getgood

I don’t watch much television. For any number of reasons. And those of you that really love the shows you watch should be really really glad.

Because just about everytime I start watching a long-running show regularly, it gets cancelled.

I started watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer regularly at the beginning of Season 7. Bye bye Buffy.

I followed my favorite BtVS character Spike to Angel when he shifted over in Angel Season 5. Hasta la vista, Angel.

Just this year, I started watching Stargate SG-1, mostly because it was on after  Dr. Who on the Sci-Fi channel. I discovered I really liked Ben Browder and Claudia Black. Yup, you guessed it… this season (number 10) will be its last season on Sci-Fi. Announced yesterday.

I had watched all of these shows from time to time before I started watching them regularly but hadn’t really gotten into them, again for a number of reasons not really relevant to this post. And as soon as I did, the party was over.

BTW, this does not seem to happen when I watch a show from the beginning, so Bones and Dr. Who, the other two shows I enjoy these days, should be fairly safe since I’ve watched Dr. Who off and on since Dr. Number 3 and Bones since the beginning.

So, if there are shows you really really like, and would prefer I NOT watch, please feel free to let me know in the comments. And if there is a series you’d like to see gone, I’ll see what I can do. Unless it is Stargate Atlantis. Can’t get into that show at all, so you are on your own. Sandy,  I’ll do my best to stay away from Battlestar Galactica.

Anyway, I am now TIVO’ing Farscape repeats and watching my Firefly and Remington Steele DVDs.  I figure that’s safe, since those shows are already cancelled. 🙂

Tags: Stargate, Buffy, Angel, Farscape, Firefly, science fiction

Filed Under: Mathom Room, Serenity / Firefly

Some Serenity stuff

January 31, 2006 by Susan Getgood

Well, for a slight change of pace, a couple of things I saw this week on Whedonesque that I am compelled to share.

Mattel surely won’t approve of Firefly Barbies but I know at least one person who is probably assembling supplies to create her own Jayne doll.

And for the best review I have seen of the film, check out A guy, a cat, a fish and a movie. There’s also a direct link to the wmv file here.

Tags: Serenity, Firefly, Whedon

Filed Under: Serenity / Firefly

The difference between an online poll and a statistically valid survey

January 12, 2006 by Susan Getgood

Earlier this week, SciFi Wire (part of SciFi.com) launched an online poll asking fans what they though writer-director Joss Whedon’s next project should be: another Serenity movie, a movie featuring Buffy/Angel character Spike, or WonderWoman. Much as I love the Serenity/Firefly ‘verse, I voted for Spike. Not because I had any illusions that the poll was scientific, or prescriptive for Whedon. Just for fun, and because I know he does listen to fans. Why not let him know that fans still love Spike?

Occasionally during the week I checked the poll. At some point the various Whedon fandoms mobilized to get out the vote, and to my knowledge at least one group of fans figured out how to "beat" the poll. And of course if one group knew (and posted it), they all knew. Instantly.

Apparently it was not that hard to figure out how to vote more than once – just delete the cookie. And with pretty motivated Whedon fans, not hard to imagine that more than one fan voted more than once.

Well, SciFi.com didn’t like it and replaced the poll with a new question. They had a brief explanation (no longer on the site) that the Whedon poll was pulled down because fans manipulated the vote.

Really…. isn’t that taking everything just a bit too seriously? Personally, I think voting more than once is silly, but these sorts of online polls are just for fun, aren’t they? So who cares? They aren’t statistically valid at all. And if you really wanted to make sure that people could only vote once, wouldn’t you make it a bit harder to "vote early and often." For more on this specific incident, check out this post on Whedonesque.

Okay, I hear you saying – we know you’re a Whedon fan. What does this have to do with marketing?

Statistically valid surveys and polls have methodology and technology behind them to ensure accurate, valid results. Objective questions. Random samples that represent the target population. Answers that mean something. If they are conducted online, the technology prevents multiple voting. Sure, the person conducting the survey has an objective, even an agenda, but the scientific methodology prevents total bias from coloring the result.

But quickie polls on Web sites, whether about Whedon or wikis or Windows, are entertainment. Giving them any other interpretation or taking them seriously is just silly.

The marketing lesson: Don’t confuse the two. If you want to do a quick poll on your Web site or blog to entertain the audience, by all means do it. But don’t use it to prove anything. If you want quantifiable "proof," spend the money to do the survey right.

And the relative importance of Joss Whedon’s next project and whether Patrick Stewart is too old for the next Star Trek movie (the current poll question)? Not going to end world hunger or bring world peace. Who cares if the fans fooled with the poll. As one of the commenters on Whedonesque pointed out, the traffic on SciFi Wire and the number of ad impressions probably increased exponentially by getting the Whedon fandoms riled up.

Which in my opinion is what they wanted in the first place, so they shouldn’t have gotten their knickers in a twist when they succeeded.

Filed Under: Marketing, Mathom Room, Serenity / Firefly

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